I conducted this interview with PM Gillard on 13 July, 2010.   She had falsely claimed on the Today Show, and in a previous interview with me, that mining companies were paying 17% and 13% (for foreign and domestic companies respectively) in effective tax rates.   The real figures were 38% and higher.  

This is the first interview I had with Ms Gillard where I really believed she was lying to me.   But the whole basis for rolling Rudd, negotiating with BHP etc and getting the mining tax issue off the front pages - it was all bogus.   The mining tax raises next to no money - all based on lies and spin.