CSIRO has been caught out relying on discredited scientific papers and unvalidated models as the basis for advice to government on climate policy, which is a multi-billion dollar drag on the economy.
Senator Roberts said, “This is shameful, and I call on the CSIRO Chief Executive, Dr Larry Marshall, and executive Dr Peter Mayfield, to resign.
“Both have been complicit in the economically destructive policies based on CSIRO’s misplaced climate research.”
The controversial, but central claim, that carbon dioxide from human activity affects climate and needs to be cut, was the focus of Senator Roberts’ cross-examination of CSIRO.
When CSIRO was asked for evidence of anything unprecedented in climate due to human carbon dioxide, and despite nearly 50 years of climate research, it could only provide the discredited Marcott (2013) paper on temperatures and the discredited Harries (2001) paper on carbon dioxide.
Both papers wilted under scrutiny, with CSIRO representatives in agreement with the concerns raised, resulting in CSIRO withdrawing the papers.
Astrophysicist and Geoscientist Professor Willie Soon was scathing in his assessment of CSIRO’s use of Marcott (2013) by saying “Two weeks after publication this paper was completely destroyed and yet, someone as high up as CSIRO trying to say this paper is legitimate and can be used as a supporting scientific evidence, is scientific malpractice”.
Senator Roberts stated, “Robust science reflecting the highest standards of integrity and transparency should be the core business of CSIRO.
“How could it be that climate scientists were unaware that the evidence being used for significant policy-making was based on poor quality and discredited scientific papers.
“CSIRO’s lack of understanding of the papers they cited shows laziness and lack of intellectual rigor. Clearly, CSIRO cannot honestly claim that human activity is causing climate variability.”
When pressed further regarding the view of CO2 being dangerous, CSIRO were quick to point out that they never claimed CO2 was dangerous, rather that it was politicians that assigned the word danger to human CO2.
CSIRO also agreed that temperatures today are not unprecedented.
In a last ditch attempt CSIRO referenced the United Nations’ reports relying on unvalidated computer models, despite freely admitting CSIRO had not done due diligence on any UN work.
CSIRO also admitted it had not done due diligence on data from the Bureau of Meteorology.
Senator Roberts added, “In my discussions with eminent international scientists, Professor John Christie stated he has closely examined CSIRO’s Access Models and found them below par, as the projections simply do not match what we actually see in the real world.”
Professor Christie added, “Climate is so complex, our ignorance of the climate system is enormous, and the myriad of models have not even agreed on a key variable, CO2 sensitivities.
“The CSIRO models are running overly warm and this has been proven when comparing real data of the last 40 years with the climate model projections.”
Dr David Evans, one of the world’s top computer modellers, states, “CSIRO climate models should not be used for policy as they are not right yet.
“The performance of all climate models, including CSIRO’s, are not sufficiently validated and consistently overestimate warming.”
Senator Roberts added, “It is the duty and responsibility of politicians to base costly policies and economic structural change on robust scientific evidence, not discredited papers and deficient models.”
Senator Roberts calls for “a halt to all climate policies and spending until credible empirical evidence is provided to justify the spend, and for an Office of Scientific Integrity to scrutinize science used for policy.
“The onus is now on parliament to provide the empirical scientific evidence proving that carbon dioxide from human activity needs to be cut, and until that is provided, government must immediately stop wasting billions of dollars on vested interests riding the climate gravy train.”
But will Morrison grow a pair.
Posted by: michael | Monday, 31 August 2020 at 11:14 AM
I can hardly wait to see where this goes....The CSIRO are a laughing stock. They used to be a valid scientific entity till the leftist disease took hold, and now they simply waste money...our money !
Good on Malcolm Roberts for outing them.
Posted by: Glenn | Monday, 31 August 2020 at 11:21 AM
If WE know that this Climate Alarmism is Bullshit - then why does Morrison go along with it - or is Morrison a WIMP and just following the mad crowd
Posted by: MikeT (WA) | Monday, 31 August 2020 at 11:25 AM
Could this be the start of the end for the gerbil warming scare mongers?
If these disciples are so concerned about CO2 my question still remains... why do they not look at the use of nuclear? The only 24/7 power generating system that is free of any CO2 emissions is nuclear.
This is the greatest con in human history and our 'elite' politicians and media have fallen for it, hook line and sinker.
Posted by: wal1957 | Monday, 31 August 2020 at 11:33 AM
Hallaluya! Malcolm is earning his pay for the good of this country
Climate .religion BS- is a luxury that we can't afford now that we are locking ourselves back to the "stone age"
Posted by: Rob Moore | Monday, 31 August 2020 at 11:37 AM
Morrison is a false prophet there is nothing like praying in a church to get the masses to vote for you. What Turnbull said about Morrison in his book is spot on.
Posted by: Lily | Monday, 31 August 2020 at 11:38 AM
Well done Malcolm Roberts and Pauline for backing him. There's not much intelligence and common sense in our Parliament but Malcolm looks like he has it in spades especially where 'Climate Change' is concerned.
Posted by: Boolean | Monday, 31 August 2020 at 11:45 AM
Unfortunately Victoria's CHO Sutton is a firm believer in man made climate change.
He wrote a paper in May stating how climate change will be damaging to the health of Victorians. I wonder if that is why he is happy to keep Victoria locked down !!
Posted by: Kyle | Monday, 31 August 2020 at 11:47 AM
The LABC will not report this.
Posted by: Ex | Monday, 31 August 2020 at 11:49 AM
I wouldn't believe anything Turnbull says.
Posted by: Boolean | Monday, 31 August 2020 at 12:14 PM
Sutton probably thinks Climate Change caused the virus. Or maybe the virus is making Climate Change worse and that is why he has to get rid of it.
Posted by: Boolean | Monday, 31 August 2020 at 12:16 PM
Excellent work Senator Roberts. One of the few in our parliament with some common sense and Australias interests at heart. Unfortunately the green/left slime has infiltrated most govt departments and also the limp lnp so the csiro will be untouchable.
Posted by: Ando | Monday, 31 August 2020 at 12:17 PM
Well done One Nation!
Posted by: John Michelmore | Monday, 31 August 2020 at 12:30 PM
"...call for C.S.I.R.O. Chief to go over 'discredited' climate change papers."
"Go over" them???
By rights, the bludgers should be buried beneath them.
The NASA Goddard Research Centre states that the average global surface-temperature change during the whole 140 years from 1880 to 2020, is 0.8 of a single degree Celsius.
THAT is the full extent of this gillarded "climate change" that is supposedly roasting, frying, baking, searing, char-grilling, barbecuing and cruelly desiccating us all to death unless we pay enormously more taxes to vastly incompetent, lying, scientifically illiterate Leftard Misgovernments who between the lot of them couldn't conspire to competently run a piss-up in a brewery or a f*ck-up in a brothel!.
Maybe brainless Leftards will attempt to cook a roast at an oven temperature of 0.8 degrees Celsius, but I generally set the oven thermostat at something a helluva lot more ambitious than that.
The B.o.M. (Bureau of Mendacity) has for some years been going hell-for-leather fraudulently falsifying historic temperature-recordings to corruptly make it appear that we are rapidly heating up when in fact we are not; A.L.P. Health-Nazis are ordering Hospital Administrators to fraudulently falsify the cause of Death on Death Certificates to make it appear that everybody is suddenly dying of Labor Leprosy, Peking Pox, Commo Cough, Socialist Syphilis, Chi-Com Crabs, Deadly Dan's Distemper, rather than the cancers, strokes, heart attacks, dementia, high blood pressure, etc. that actually killed them. Our genuine Covid 19 death-toll is possibly just a mere fraction of what the Leftard Apocalyptic Catastrophists are gillarding that it is.
Now we have the C.S.I.R.O. (Crap Science Inspired by Religious Oratory) 'political scientists' gillarding and bloviating bulldust by the barnyard in order to pretend that we are being baked to death, when everybody knows from the ambient temperature, that we are absolutely not.
If people masquerading as scientists are bullshitting and moonlighting as amateur politicians, then boot them out of their current jobs and let them join the Australian Liars Party and stand for Parliament where all scientifically-improbable lies and bulldust belong.
Posted by: Up The Workers! | Monday, 31 August 2020 at 12:36 PM
Unfortunately I can’t see this happening because those in power believe that the science is settled notwithstanding the evidence that the basis for their belief is flaky
Posted by: Graham | Monday, 31 August 2020 at 12:36 PM
Scomo lacks the intestinal fortitude to challenge the CSIRO, so don't expect anything to change. The ALPBC have won due to the majority of Australians being illiterate and dumb.
Posted by: brian43 | Monday, 31 August 2020 at 01:11 PM
Hanson and Roberts are two of only a few politicians who have the right to call themselves honourable.
Posted by: Denise | Monday, 31 August 2020 at 01:15 PM
Good to see someone standing up to the leftist cult of climate change.
Posted by: Newbposter | Monday, 31 August 2020 at 02:20 PM
The sooner the warming hoax and related unnecessary cost to the nation/world is exposed and dumped the faster recovery of the economy will be.
And investigations commenced into the deceivers and their motives including personal wealth creation and political advancement internationally.
Posted by: Dennis Thompson | Monday, 31 August 2020 at 02:37 PM
Glenn,
100% agree.
The once great CSIRO is now pathetic.
Posted by: toorightmate | Monday, 31 August 2020 at 02:39 PM
And don't let the BoM escape attention, the false modelling based on selective accounting of historical weather data, and ignoring official records earlier than 1910, have been reported to governments since 2013/14, Doctor Jennifer Marohasy and associates have investigated and submitted supporting evidence of the deception.
Posted by: Dennis Thompson | Monday, 31 August 2020 at 02:40 PM
This is being moved in the Vic Parliament tomorrow
299 DR RATNAM — To move —
That this House —
(1) notes that —
(a) globally, nationally and locally, human induced climate change is contributing to
record breaking temperatures, extreme weather events, and more regular and intense
bushfires and drought;
(b) climate change will have a devastating effect across Victoria on public health, food
production, water availability, loss of animal and plant species and biodiversity, and
the liveability of our cities and towns;
(c) the global temperature increase must be limited to 1.5 degrees to minimise the risk of
the worst impacts of climate change, a task the United Nations Intergovernmental
Panel on Climate Change says requires urgent and unprecedented action;
(d) mitigating the impacts of climate change requires a shift to 100 per cent renewable
energy and a plan to ensure coal, gas and oil reserves stay in the ground;
(2) declares that we are in a state of climate emergency and that there is a moral imperative
to act swiftly to prevent the harm of a changing climate;
(3) calls for all levels of government to work with communities to urgently respond to the
climate emergency in a way that is fair, including —
(a) ensuring justice for First Peoples;
(b) capturing the economic opportunities and job creation of a low carbon economy;
(c) providing investment and jobs for coal-reliant workers and communities; and
(d) delivering a circular, zero waste economy, and restoring the natural environment,
including ending native forest logging to preserve carbon stores and our water supply.
[Notice given on 19 March 2020 — Listed for 10 days].
Posted by: Kyle | Monday, 31 August 2020 at 02:52 PM
Well you obviously haven't read it or heard the comments about the piece. I am no fan of Turnbull never was and never will be, given time Morrison will show his true side.
Posted by: Lily | Monday, 31 August 2020 at 02:54 PM
I believe it, this government of Dan is the pits!
The Weather-Bureau has falsified temperatures and quantity of rainfall for years, I thought that the CSIRO had identified that one?
Posted by: Liz of Vic | Monday, 31 August 2020 at 04:23 PM
For backing who???
Posted by: Henry | Monday, 31 August 2020 at 04:24 PM
No....but he might be able to borrow a pair.....as he did with Andrew's belt and road deal?..
...or was that just murmuring of appeasement?........probably just murmuring of appeasement!!
Posted by: CountryBumpkin | Monday, 31 August 2020 at 05:39 PM
First Craig Kelly....now Hanson and Roberts!!
Maybe I've been hasty on my assessment of those who sup at the taxpayer trough of endless benefit?......some actually realising they're there to enact the will of the majority of their constituents?
Nah!!...........one swallow (or three) does not a summer make!!
Posted by: CountryBumpkin | Monday, 31 August 2020 at 05:49 PM
Here is a bit of real science for you with a resonably solid prediction for what is going to actually happen versus what the CSIRO and others might tell you. It actually is not looking good because the prediction is colder which has always been bad for us:
https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/23328940.2020.1796243
Posted by: Peter Howell | Monday, 31 August 2020 at 05:50 PM
Totally agree Good properly peer -reviewed sconce will destroy’’bad science’ as -promulgated by CSIRO.
Great stuff Malcolm !!
Posted by: Technetium99 | Monday, 31 August 2020 at 07:20 PM
Reading the transcript of an interview that Marise Payne did it all sounds like it is just a review into the deals that have already been done by the states..
So if they are gaining public scrutiny they will look at it.. lots of looking and reviewing are done by governments as a buying for time tactic..
https://www.foreignminister.gov.au/minister/marise-payne/transcript/interview-jim-wilson
Marise Payne:
Well, as the Prime Minister said very clearly today at our press conference, we’re not going to pre-judge any of these. We’ve indicated that just from an open-sourced search, there are about 135 or so arrangements that we can identify which span 30 countries and across 10 areas of policies. So there is a lot of engagement between state and territory governments and international governments that we will need to review in this process. They will apply equally to all states and territories should the legislation be passed. So not prejudging is important. This is a legal process. It will be covered by important legislation, and I don't want to prejudge that.
Jim Wilson:
No, but having said that, your Government was blindsided by the deal between Mr Andrews and China's Communist Party. So this legislation will prevent a repeat of any such deal being done by the states in the future.
Marise Payne:
Well it will certainly ensure that agreements, which are currently in place and those which are in prospect, those which are planned by state and territory governments, all of which come up in the future, absolutely will be subject to this review process. And I do think it's important, as you say, that we are encouraging the important contribution that such arrangements can and do make to Australia's international engagement, but making them consistent with our national interests.
Posted by: Michelle Two | Monday, 31 August 2020 at 08:22 PM
Humans take in oxygen and breathe out CO2.
Plants take in CO2 and breathe out oxygen.
It really is that basic.
Global cooling, which morphed into global warming, has now morphed into the catch-all "climate change" once it was noticed neither an ice age nor a meltdown was apparent.
A multi-billion dollar con, to make rich scam artists even richer.
Posted by: SNG777 | Monday, 31 August 2020 at 09:33 PM
Well they're not going to slap away the hand with the brown bag in it are they?......so, 'looking into it' is pollie speak for 'nothing to see here people. move on'
Posted by: CountryBumpkin | Monday, 31 August 2020 at 10:31 PM
Those pushing the barrow haven’t fallen for anything.
All they have been doing is the groundwork so that if the unelected swill in the UN & other unelected globalist organisations are successful in their One World Government Tyranny they’ll get a cushy number whilst the serfs get rounded up & Arkansided.
Posted by: Fascinated Observer | Monday, 31 August 2020 at 10:43 PM