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China in another attack accusing Australia of war crimes and genocide

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Global Times: In a joint statement on March 23, Australian Foreign Minister Marise Payne and New Zealand Foreign Minister Nanaia Mahuta underscore the importance of transparency and accountability, and reiterate their call on China to grant meaningful and unfettered access to Xinjiang for United Nations experts, and other independent observers. Do you have any comment on this?

Hua Chunying: The door to Xinjiang is always open. In 2019, over 200 million visits were made to Xinjiang. We welcome any unbiased foreigners to visit Xinjiang, but firmly oppose any so-called "investigation" and "accountability" with presumption of guilt, and stand against anyone using this for political maneuver to pressure China.

Speaking of "accountability", I wonder how is Australia doing with those investigations into their soldiers' grave crimes in Afghanistan that were exposed not long ago? Have they held the perpetrators accountable and punished them to do justice to the innocent victims? Will Five Eyes countries including the US and the UK, and the EU consider sanctions on Australia?

Besides, in Australia, there was the infamous White Australia Policy, under which genocide was committed against aboriginal people and 100,000 aboriginal children were forcibly taken away from their families. Did the Australian side hold accountable those who caused pain to the Stolen Generation?    


Bloomberg: Yesterday the Chinese embassy in Canberra put out a statement which I'll read to you. "We call on Australia to reflect upon and address its own problems, in particular the killings of innocent civilians by Australian overseas military personnel, the worsening situation of racial discrimination, the long-standing insufficiency in the protection of the rights of aboriginal peoples as well as the inhumane treatment of detainees in the off-shore detention centers." You spoke about that just now as well. Can you please expand on these points that the embassy has raised and tell us more about what China thinks should be done?

Hua Chunying: Our position is very clear in Canberra and in Beijing. The Australian side should know very well what problems they have in history and now. They should also be clear about what concrete actions they need to take to put things right.

Bloomberg: So your comments recently, today, previous days, the statement on Australia, recent statements on the EU, Canada and the US, show that human rights, international human rights is becoming a more and more important, more and more a focus of your foreign affairs work. Yesterday you spoke about historical atrocities and you also spoke about recent humanitarian crisis in Syria. Can we expect the Chinese government to play a more active role in international human rights work, including pointing out human rights failings in other countries?

Hua Chunying: The recent developments just show that some countries have attempted to politicize the issue of human rights and use it as a pretext to interfere in the internal affairs of other countries. But those countries have even forgotten the serious crimes they perpetrated in the past and the ongoing domestic human rights problems they're facing.

China always maintains that all countries should learn from each other and make progress together through dialogue and exchanges in the spirit of equality and mutual respect. Human rights should be embodied in concrete actions. It means the governments of various countries should take concrete steps to ensure that their people enjoy a better life and protect their rights to life and health, among others. Human rights should not be used as a tool to interfere in the internal affairs of other countries.

Bloomberg: I have one more question. There's an apparent contradiction between your comments on the human rights situation in specific countries, such as Canada, Australia, other countries and the Chinese government's repeated statements that no other countries have the right to comment or interfere in Chinese domestic affairs. How do you explain that contradiction?

Hua Chunying: May I know your nationality?

Journalist: I am Australian.

Hua Chunying: That explains why you are asking this question. China's position is not contradictory at all.

The accusation against China on Xinjiang by Australia and several US allies are based on nothing but lies. We all know what role the Australian Strategic Policy Institute (ASPI) has played. If government leaders of a country don't believe the voice of the 25 million people of all ethnic groups in Xinjiang and actual situation on the ground, but rather choose to believe lies of the century fabricated by a handful of anti-China elements with the purpose of containing and suppressing China's development, do you think such things should be allowed?

As an Australian, you know very well whether there were policies to slaughter and assimilate the aboriginal people in the history of your country. You also know whether the more recent crimes conducted by some Australian soldiers in Afghanistan are a fact. China sticks to non-interference into other country's domestic affairs. But why can't us point out Australia's mistake when the country shys sway from its own problems, and groundlessly accuses China on the basis of lies, rumors and disinformation even though the Australian defence force already released an investigation report. If you are confident enough, and if you don't have those problems, what are you afraid of?

China News Service: Australian and New Zealand Foreign Ministers said in a joint statement on March 23 that they share the deep concerns of the US, Canada, the UK and the EU and welcome their sanction measures. You answered a similar question yesterday. Are you worried about these countries ganging up on China?

Hua Chunying: Like I said yesterday, we're not worried at all. The United States and its allies of the Five Eyes have taken coordinated steps to gang up on China. The way they act reminds us of the Eight-Power Allied Forces. But they are obviously mistaken about the era we're are in. They are living in 2021 with the outdated thinking from the age of the late Qing Dynasty at the end of the 19th century. They don't understand China or the world. Today's China is no longer what it was 120 years ago. The Chinese people are not to be trifled with. Once they are provoked to anger, things can get very tough.

The United Nations have 190-plus member states. The Five Eyes allies cannot represent the international community. As a Chinese proverb goes, "A just cause rallies abundant support while an unjust one has little." China is above-board and open and remains committed to developing friendly and cooperative relations with all countries in line with the Five Principles of Peaceful Coexistence. Take a look at a world map, you will find China have friends all over the world. Why should we be worried?