Another reason why we should not be coerced into taking the vaccines. Where there is risk, there must be choice.

If Pfizer can’t be liable, then our government must be. But they hide behind their pandemic state of emergency to abrogate their accountability. There must be a reckoning t the next election, especially in Victoria where we have seen the most avoidable deaths.

As with so many information snippets the devil is in the detail
Yes there were 1223 fatalities, however the article does not state how many doses were administered during this time period so the number is virtually meaningless.

We know the CCP virus has a fatality rate in the USA of about 1.6%. Thus if there were less than 76438 doses of pfizer administered then the cure is worse than the disease. If however there were more than 76K doses administered, which I assume there were, then the cure is better than the disease.

If there were say 1 million doses of the vaccine administered then the death rate becomes 0.0012%, which is a LOT better than the disease.

Steve. The TGA has had 700+ deaths reported as suspectedly caused by the injections. Nearly all these are from doctors who genuinely believe what they have reported, and then the TGA says they only got it (maybe) ONE PERCENT right = 7 deaths.

This tells you that the govt will NOT cover anything like the real damage caused by their deliberate actions, OR that doctors are 99% dopes. Which of these seems more likely?

More articles about NOT SAFE vaccine.

NEW STUDY AND WARNING FROM AMERICAN HEART ASSOCIATION: MRNA VACCINES DRAMATICALLY INCREASE RISK OF DEVELOPING HEART DISEASES FROM 11% TO 25%!

https://www.ahajournals.org/doi/10.1161/circ.144.suppl_1.10712

AT LEAST 69 ATHLETES COLLAPSE IN ONE MONTH, MANY DEAD

The reports of athletes who suddenly collapse have been increasing noticeably lately. Heart problems such as heart inflammation are often the cause – one of the known life-threatening side effects of Covid vaccines, which even the manufacturers themselves warn against.

https://freewestmedia.com/2021/11/26/at-least-69-athletes-collapse-in-one-month-many-dead/

ADD to that the Government who follow the science advocating the booster shot for everyone BUT.

WORLD HEALTH ORGANIZATION SAYS “NO EVIDENCE” BOOSTER JABS WOULD OFFER “GREATER PROTECTION” TO THE HEALTHY

The World Health Organization has questioned the UK government’s decision to roll out hundreds of millions of booster jabs to its population, asserting there is “no evidence” they would offer “greater protection” to the healthy.

UK Health Secretary Sajid Javid’s says the country has secured an additional 114 million vaccine doses for 2022 and 2023 to “buy time” and that everyone over the age of 18 will be offered one by the end of January.

https://www.blacklistednews.com/article/81324/world-health-organization-says-no-evidence-booster-jabs-would-offer-greater-protection-to-the.html

Bunkum.

The real purpose of the shots is not to keep us alive, but to gradually annihilate us all, to make comparisons like that is a waste of time.

These figures prove our government is lying to us, and under-reporting deaths, just like in the rest of the world is experiencing.

We need an independent court, of people who can be trusted, to make the media and all the other sycophants report just what is going on.

"If you don't trust the government you are no longer a conspiracy theorist.

You are a history buff"

Here is the reason for pushing the vaccine into as many as possible. The more people jabbed, the lower the number of deaths and AVE's appear as a percentage thereby allowing them to pretend there is a greater risk/benefit ratio for the vaccine. To enhance that they are outright lying about the number of people jabbed to make it look better for the figures saying see, there is a very small chance of anything bad happening to you.
So here's a test for them. I have a bowl with 1000 jelly beans. One of them will kill you instantly, 2 of them will cause you total incapacitation for the rest of your life, 3 of them will reduce your quality of life by 50% for the rest of your life, 4 of them will give you severe side effects but you won't know what they are till after you eat them. If you eat one regardless of what happens, unless you got the death bean first up, you have to come back in a month and eat another one. And if still nothing happens you have to come back every three months and eat another one.
Now how many jelly beans would you like?

Its certainly not to stop covid. 100% jabbed in Gibraltar and they have to cancel Christmas due to serious outbreaks of covid. Wake up.

(100% JABBED) GIBRALTAR ... (Crown Colony in a Petri Dish?) - CANCELS CHRISTMAS' !
https://gab.com/AussieAnne/posts/107379480030975495

Nope.

686 reported deaths from vaccine have been investigated and only 9 found to have been as a result of the vaccine. That’s 9 deaths from 39.1M jabs.

Yet over 2000 deaths from COVID.

No, you don’t have to be a doctor to report side effects from a vaccine. In fact, the TGA encourages anyone with side effects to report. However the TGA is also investigating multiple reports with different names that have originated from the same URL.

Which seems more likely? That 99% of politicians, doctors, and health professionals are either dopes or are in on the vaccine scam making big dollars? Or that 1% of health professionals are mentally ill?

Australia: 9 deaths from vaccine in 39M shots = death rate of 0.00002%.

2,021 deaths from 213,339 positive cases = death rate of 0.9%.

Quote "her husband was an Advisor to Pfizer"

Where is your evidence of this?

It helps your comment if you provide it.

Forbes Admits mRNA Vaccines Alter DNA Then Changes the Headline

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/12/forbes-changes-headline-admits-mrna-vaccines-alter-dna-change-back/

Heres the altered Forbes article:
Covid Vaccines Don’t Alter Your DNA – They Help Choose Cells To Strengthen Your Immune Response

https://www.forbes.com/sites/stevensalzberg/2021/11/29/yes-the-vaccine-changes-your-dna-a-tiny-bit-thats-a-good-thing/?sh=7bf297242691

What Are The REAL Numbers …..Facebook Has Removed Hundreds Of Adverse Vaccine 💉 Reaction FORUMS / Discussion Groups …..The Whole Thing Is CRIMINAL ‼️

Comment Of The Week …👍

My Ex-wife's sister in law is a GP in Melbourne.
She urged them to wait for Pfizer as she refused to offer Astra Zeneca and said it should be on the shelf anywhere.

Not Just Players – Premier League Matches Disrupted By Fans Having 'Medical Emergencies' In The Stands

https://t.co/dv8SkV4MGI

I'd also ask, why are proven treatments with well-known and safe drugs that are already available and very inexpensive not being used to treat those who do have this virus?

The ivermectin protocol has been successfully used in many countries around the world, saving lives, yet its use is outlawed here in Australia, it's been criminalised here.

If this was about anyone's health, that ivermectin protocol would be used here as well.

Yeap.

Let us go to the source report so we can quote with confidence.

(TGA report 18th Nov as our example as that is the latest I have open)
(start quote)
Large scale vaccination means that some people will experience a new illness or die within a few days or weeks of vaccination. These events are often coincidental, rather than being caused by the vaccine.

The TGA reviews all deaths reported in people who have been recently vaccinated. As the number of people being vaccinated has increased, so has reporting of fatal events with a coincidental association with vaccination. Our review of individual reports and patterns of reporting does not suggest that the vaccines played a role in the vast majority of these deaths.

Since the beginning of the vaccine rollout to 14 November 2021, about 37.7 million doses of COVID-19 vaccines have been administered. The TGA has found 9 reports of death that were linked to immunisation from 665 reports received and reviewed.
(end)

So, Cal has claimed 686 deaths, probably because Cal is quoting from a more recent report. This is also useful in context as it shows the numbers are steadily increasing from the 14th Nov report I have copy/pasted. Casual study of these TGA reports suggests deaths are occurring at about 15 per week and have shown little sign of slowing. I was expecting them to slow as we reach those magic numbers of 90% Jabbed but need to look deeper.

Either way - deaths are reported. I think we can all agree to this.

Now, reading what the TGA is actually saying:

First up, the first paragraph. Basically they are brushing off the deaths of multiple people each week as 'People die all the time, so don't blame the Jab'.

Also note the careful wording. "These events are OFTEN..."

Often. Implying most of the time but not always.

Read that in conjunction with "does not suggest that the vaccines played a role in the vast majority of these deaths."

Vast Majority.

This is actually a relatively new addition. For those of us with lives and who don't read through these TGA reports on a regular basis, this wording was added in October and added 'vast majority'. Previously the reports just said the Jab didn't play a role, now it didn't play a role in the 'Vast Majority'.

What this means is that the TGA admit (probably for legal reasons) that the Jab in the Small Minority did actually play a role in killing the person.

(also - if these deaths are coincidental, why are Australian medical professionals regularly giving them out to people who logically must already be clearly in the last weeks of their lives? Remember the TGA are not saying that coincientally healthy people are dropping dead after the Jab, but that either some new, or existing illness kicked them off. If existing, then why are terminally ill people being given the jab? If new, what is this 'non covid, non jab' illness that is killing about 15 people a week and why is the government NOT doing something about this?)

(also - Deaths with Jab? Coincident. Deaths with Covid? Absolutely totally Covid and nothing else. Just asking.)

Now, this is the thing. The question isn't really does the Jab reduce and/or block the chances of catching, suffering from and spreading Covid relative to the Pure Bloods.

(also note how the Narrative is now no longer that the Jab will protect you from catching, but now that it will mean you get it 'milder'. So you will go from having it but not knowing, to having it but not knowing with some sparkles and rainbows I guess...)

The big question is instead, Is the Jab SAFE?

Short answer - NO. It kills people.

Better more useful answer is that it seems to regularly kill people, and seems to have very nasty side effects, and hence MAY be of greater risk of injury or death than simply maybe getting Covid.

This is IMPORTANT. This is the corner stone of risk reduction. You do not reduce risk A by adding risk B.

(ie - if you are trying to prevent heat stroke, telling them to swim in the crocodile pond is not a good risk reduction process as now you have added in the previously non existing crocodile question.)

I can reduce the risk of Jab death or permanent heart damage by not taking the Jab. Very simple. No Jab = No Jab Risk.

The question then relates to the risk of death/permanent damage from the actual Fauci Flu.

Remember it is largely admitted that:
- breakthrough cases are real
- breakthrough deaths are real
- being fully 'vaxed' does not stop you catching or transmitting
- You will need boosters
- You MAY need boosters forever.

So, to recap

Jab Risk + Breakthrough Risk needs to be combined and compared to 'UnVax Risk' in a rational manner and the solution with the lowest OVERALL risk needs to be the direction taken.

Or you could just Trust the Science

Horowitz: Pfizer vaccine injury data ordered released by judge shows shocking risk level

excerpt:

In total, Pfizer discloses the existence of 42,086 adverse event case reports containing 158,893 total events, including 1,227 deaths. 25,957 of the events were classified as “Nervous system disorders.”

So for those who think that somehow VAERS is not accurate or is overreporting deaths, these are numbers straight from the horse’s mouth just through February.

Remember, it is extremely hard to trace many serious events back to the vaccine, including death, especially if there is a few weeks’ lag time, and most especially with people already in advanced age.

So these are just the ones that were “submitted voluntarily, and the magnitude of underreporting is unknown.”

End

And here the doctors will not even report side effects.

These doctors are criminal
The Govt is criminal
AHPRA is criminal
TGA is criminal

Or did the govt send a memo out to all doctors NOT TO REPORT SIDE EFFECTS???

https://www.theblaze.com/op-ed/horowitz-pfizer-vaccine-injury-data-ordered-released-by-judge-shows-shocking-risk-level

@dockaurG
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India (the largest democracy in the world with population of 1.2 billion ppl) won't buy Pfizer/Moderna novel mRNA vaccines

‘Indian govt has declined to meet the US companies' requests for legal protection over any side-effects from use of their shots...”

https://www.reuters.com/world/india/india-govt-wont-buy-pfizer-moderna-vaccines-amid-local-output-sources-2021-09-21/

Tangenting slightly.

When the Jabs first came out we were told that our Experts and Leaders had agreed to a non blame clause.

So in normal terms I believe this works like this:

- I want your new shiny thing!
- It is still doing testing. We haven't found anything wrong at the moment, but we are still doing tests.
- Can't wait. I am willing to accept the risk. Here is a legal document.
- Fine. Here is your shiny thing.

So the buyer accepted the risk and said so. The Seller was, via the agreement, not to blame if anything unexpected popped up.

HOWEVER...

If a problem WAS to come up then it would no longer be unexpected. You didn't know that before, but you know that now.

Can you still sell the product and be blameless?

NO. You now know about the problem.

This is why they do safety recalls of products. Once you know about the problem you are responsible for it.

If the Jabs are believed to be associated to deaths or serious injuries you cannot just say 'Oh, but the deal was no blame, so can keep doing it'. Doesn't work that way. The moment you find a problem you need to act on it, even if it was not your fault or if you had no idea it could even happen.

It happened.

It is now a problem.

You must act on it.

Any other industry would act that way.

And Governments will always give the correct figures never manipulate them for any reason.

Good luck if you believe that.

Nicely thought out MudCrab.

Sure. Let’s mark info from the TGA as “fake news” and instead believe a blog published by a 26 year old anti-Baxter with zero medical qualifications who lives in his mum’s basement. Good call.

Gibraltar? Sure there are some positive cases. But Gibraltar has only had 5 deaths since June. Israel is the same. Clearly the vaccine is reducing the severity of those who catch the virus.

Personally I don’t care if you are vaxxed or not. But I do care when you spread lies and false information. Isn’t it funny that the anti-vaxxers are always the ones to abuse others. Says more about you than me.

The vaccine is far safer than catching COVID. Just look at the stats in Australia. Even Blind Freddy can understand that a vaccine death rate of 0.00002% (and no vaccine deaths for 6 months now) is much better than a COVID death rate of 1%. Even if 10 times as many people have COVID as test positive (as you claim), then that is a death rate of 0.1%. Still three orders of magnitude worse.

As you said, crashing a car after being vaccinated should not be considered a death by vaccine. This alone will lower the reported percentage death rate.

I would like that to be true, however I am hoping to be allowed the chance to choose to face the world again wven if it is the last thing I ever do.

"Sure. Let’s mark info from the TGA as “fake news"

The first sensible suggestion I have seen you post.

From Covid???
You tell us.
With Covid???
The numbers are such that nobody actually has any idea how many have differs Covid.
Heck...our very own Comrade Dan has said numerous times over the last two days that the numbers of cases are irrelevant.

I am no lawyer, so maybe a real lawyer can offer a more learned view on this.

So based on this really good point brought up by MC, does this mean that since Pfizer knew of the ability of their "vaccine" to kill people before supplying this lethal drug to Australia, that any attempt to absolve themselves from all liability for any harm caused by their drug is actually null and void and they can actually be sued by anyone that has been harmed by their "vaccine"? Would the TGA also be liable if they had the same information in hand which one would presume they would have had when they gave the provisional approval?

Just asking for a friend, as I am already part of the "control group".

I seem to recall a fair bit of invective from you.
Country Bumpkin, to name only one, might as well.
In your case any negative comments you receive are well deserved.
Always happy to have discussions with reasonable people which is why I cannot stomach you.

The reason for low case numbers is very clearly multi-factorial. Huge case numbers in Europe and the US. Are humans different in Europe or the US compared to Australia? Clearly not. So the factors that are likely to affect case numbers include all the administrative policies as I have outlined above, plus a few geographical factors and some of the social determinants of health.

Geographical factors include isolation of an island nation, and our relatively low population density. Is it any surprise that most cases pop up in high density cities? In comparison to Europe and the US, our cities are far apart. Australia also has a relatively warm and sunny climate. If you look at a map of the US with cases by state, the southern states - sunnier, warmer, more humid - tend to have lower case numbers. In Australia, there’s barely been a locally transmitted case further north than Brisbane.

Australia has a relatively healthy population. We have an abundance of healthy and cheap food. Yes, there are many overweight and obese people, and many with comorbidities keep alive through treatments and drugs, but few people are dying of starvation or tropical diseases and parasites. Which is also very interesting as the COVID cases are relatively low in Africa - perhaps a combination of many Africans already taking anti-virals which have a protective effect, and also that there are very few (relatively) old and sick people being kept alive in Africa through medicines and treatments. The old and infirm who were at great risk of dying from COVID just don’t exist in great numbers in Africa - they are already dead.

You know you can go to the TGA website and report a vaccine side effect yourself, don’t you? Stop trying to invent conspiracies when they clearly do not exist.

It's 2021 and people are still using Fakebook.

Now that is criminal and just stupid.

Hey jerkoff, if everyone on here had to spend time googling ALL the claims made by people it would take hours, also you would have to determine what is fact and what is fake therefore you would have to peruse a lot of links.