1,223 fatalities in Pfizer's Covid vaccine 'Adverse Event' report (here) for 1st 90 days
Friday, 03 December 2021
I'd commend this entity to you - https://phmpt.org
It tells us:
Four days after the Pfizer vaccine was approved for ages 16+, we submitted a Freedom of Information Act Request to the FDA for all of the data within Pfizer’s COVID-19 vaccine biological product file. We have now sued the FDA for not releasing the data.
The FDA is fighting in court to avoid releasing documents. One of the FDA's claims is that it will take 50 years of 'work' to get the documents out.
But 'Public Health and Medical Professionals for Transparency' has had a great early success, with the release of Pfizer's 'Post-Authorization Adverse Event Reports' covering the period 1 December 2020 to 28 February 2021'.
That report which I've published in full below tells us that from 1 DEC 2020 to 28 FEB 2021, Pfizer received a total of 42,086 adverse case reports (25,379 medically confirmed and 16,707 non-medically confirmed) containing 158,893 adverse events.
Of those, 1,223 were fatal.
Here's the Pfizer table:
And here's the Pfizer document in full.
Another reason why we should not be coerced into taking the vaccines. Where there is risk, there must be choice.
If Pfizer can’t be liable, then our government must be. But they hide behind their pandemic state of emergency to abrogate their accountability. There must be a reckoning t the next election, especially in Victoria where we have seen the most avoidable deaths.
Posted by: Steve | Friday, 03 December 2021 at 09:57 AM
The only real dispute is over whether these deaths etc are a result of reckless indifference, or whether the entire aim of the injections is TO KILL and maim....
Lotsa people do stuff for a quick buck without caring too much about long-term effects. Even though I am 100% pro-smokers-rights, and 100% in favour of alcohol etc etc, I also appreciate that plenty of people trading in them could not give a damn if they eventually (or immediately) harm people. It's the users' choice and who doesn't know what they may end up with by smoking and boozing? I DO!. So, it's entirely possible (not probable) that this mass slaughter is just for the dough. Meanwhile, we take it for granted that medicines ARE basically safe and monitored closely.....However
We all expect a regulator to seriously regulate pharmaceuticals since that's what WE pay them to do. Which the TGA etc usually do....BUT NOT IN THIS UNIQUE CASE = it must be a harm-shot by design. It cannot be otherwise.
This is why no member of the elites will produce an antibody test to confirm THEY have been injected by the demonic RNA/DNA gene-thingies. This is why the TGA "investigates" 700 deaths in Oz and comes up with maybe 7 were the injections, despite those reports being almost exclusively submitted by doctors etc...who KNOW a side effect when they see one.
Nett result: the staggeringly persistent ENCOURAGEMENT of the kill-shots = APPROVAL of the outcomes. That's all...
Posted by: Mantaray | Friday, 03 December 2021 at 10:25 AM
As with so many information snippets the devil is in the detail
Yes there were 1223 fatalities, however the article does not state how many doses were administered during this time period so the number is virtually meaningless.
We know the CCP virus has a fatality rate in the USA of about 1.6%. Thus if there were less than 76438 doses of pfizer administered then the cure is worse than the disease. If however there were more than 76K doses administered, which I assume there were, then the cure is better than the disease.
If there were say 1 million doses of the vaccine administered then the death rate becomes 0.0012%, which is a LOT better than the disease.
Posted by: Suparat | Friday, 03 December 2021 at 10:25 AM
RED FLAGS should also be taken into account when.
1. The agreement the Government signed with the drug companies is secret.
2. You can't even sue them if they are proven to knowingly have lied and you have adverse side effects.
3. The first stated efficacy rate has DRAMATICALLY dropped from 97% to only around 3% after 6 months.
4. The Government readily released numbers of vaccinated in hospitals BUT in Victoria since 18th of October they mostly don't.
** Trust the Government, not likely. **
Posted by: Philip | Friday, 03 December 2021 at 10:25 AM
Steve. The TGA has had 700+ deaths reported as suspectedly caused by the injections. Nearly all these are from doctors who genuinely believe what they have reported, and then the TGA says they only got it (maybe) ONE PERCENT right = 7 deaths.
This tells you that the govt will NOT cover anything like the real damage caused by their deliberate actions, OR that doctors are 99% dopes. Which of these seems more likely?
Posted by: Mantaray | Friday, 03 December 2021 at 10:30 AM
Hold the unelected Health Bureaucrats accountable for their shit "advice" Joetato thinks Fauci is the President.
Posted by: underminder | Friday, 03 December 2021 at 10:32 AM
More articles about NOT SAFE vaccine.
NEW STUDY AND WARNING FROM AMERICAN HEART ASSOCIATION: MRNA VACCINES DRAMATICALLY INCREASE RISK OF DEVELOPING HEART DISEASES FROM 11% TO 25%!
AT LEAST 69 ATHLETES COLLAPSE IN ONE MONTH, MANY DEAD
The reports of athletes who suddenly collapse have been increasing noticeably lately. Heart problems such as heart inflammation are often the cause – one of the known life-threatening side effects of Covid vaccines, which even the manufacturers themselves warn against.
Posted by: Philip | Friday, 03 December 2021 at 10:48 AM
Double vaxxed. Got the virus. Too sick to talk now.
Posted by: underminder | Friday, 03 December 2021 at 10:49 AM
ADD to that the Government who follow the science advocating the booster shot for everyone BUT.
WORLD HEALTH ORGANIZATION SAYS “NO EVIDENCE” BOOSTER JABS WOULD OFFER “GREATER PROTECTION” TO THE HEALTHY
The World Health Organization has questioned the UK government’s decision to roll out hundreds of millions of booster jabs to its population, asserting there is “no evidence” they would offer “greater protection” to the healthy.
UK Health Secretary Sajid Javid’s says the country has secured an additional 114 million vaccine doses for 2022 and 2023 to “buy time” and that everyone over the age of 18 will be offered one by the end of January.
Posted by: Philip | Friday, 03 December 2021 at 10:54 AM
It is now time for the Health "experts" to condemn the former CHO in QLD and seek her removal as the newly appointed Governor Of QLD.
Screeching like a harridan she told the Qld population that Astra Zeneca was bad for you and she didn't want to see young adults die from it.
Not once in her daily TV appearances did she inform the people that her husband was an Advisor to Pfizer. That is evil.
Posted by: Barry J | Friday, 03 December 2021 at 11:03 AM
The real purpose of the shots is not to keep us alive, but to gradually annihilate us all, to make comparisons like that is a waste of time.
These figures prove our government is lying to us, and under-reporting deaths, just like in the rest of the world is experiencing.
We need an independent court, of people who can be trusted, to make the media and all the other sycophants report just what is going on.
Posted by: Carolyn | Friday, 03 December 2021 at 11:08 AM
That is only up until 28 Feb too. What are the figures now with so many more having been vaccinated? I wonder if it is possible to discover the number of people who died with covid rather than died from covid.
Posted by: Denise | Friday, 03 December 2021 at 11:15 AM
"If you don't trust the government you are no longer a conspiracy theorist.
You are a history buff"
Posted by: another ian | Friday, 03 December 2021 at 11:18 AM
The correct comparison is the probability of being vaccinated and having an adverse event/dying PLUS the probability of being vaccinated and contracting the disease/dying VERSUS the probability of being unvaccinated and contracting the disease and ending up in hospital/dying.
We now know the proclivity for contracting the disease and transmitting it is the same for both vaccinated and unvaccinated, per Lancet study.
In performing the above comparison the disparities between results for different age groups must also be taken into account as the probabilities differ markedly.
For those under, I think, 30 in the US the probability of dying from the disease IF you contract it is something like .003 of a percent ie 3 in 100,000.
Then the health status of each individual needs to be considered and included in this of course is any natural immunity.
Then the fact that the long term effects are unknown must be factored in.
You obviously have made your decision.
Good for you and good luck for the future.
Posted by: Steve J | Friday, 03 December 2021 at 11:22 AM
Here is the reason for pushing the vaccine into as many as possible. The more people jabbed, the lower the number of deaths and AVE's appear as a percentage thereby allowing them to pretend there is a greater risk/benefit ratio for the vaccine. To enhance that they are outright lying about the number of people jabbed to make it look better for the figures saying see, there is a very small chance of anything bad happening to you.
So here's a test for them. I have a bowl with 1000 jelly beans. One of them will kill you instantly, 2 of them will cause you total incapacitation for the rest of your life, 3 of them will reduce your quality of life by 50% for the rest of your life, 4 of them will give you severe side effects but you won't know what they are till after you eat them. If you eat one regardless of what happens, unless you got the death bean first up, you have to come back in a month and eat another one. And if still nothing happens you have to come back every three months and eat another one.
Now how many jelly beans would you like?
Posted by: Gwedo | Friday, 03 December 2021 at 11:28 AM
courts are supposed to hold them to account. It would be too much to hope that this spreads?
𝗕𝗲𝗹𝗴𝗶𝗮𝗻 𝗖𝗼𝘂𝗿𝘁 𝗥𝘂𝗹𝗲𝘀 𝗖𝗢𝗩𝗜𝗗 𝗣𝗮𝘀𝘀 𝗜𝗹𝗹𝗲𝗴𝗮𝗹 & 𝗢𝗿𝗱𝗲𝗿𝘀 𝗟𝗼𝗰𝗮𝗹 𝗚𝗼𝘃𝗲𝗿𝗻𝗺𝗲𝗻𝘁 𝗧𝗼 𝗪𝗶𝘁𝗵𝗱𝗿𝗮𝘄 𝗠𝗲𝗮𝘀𝘂𝗿𝗲
“A court in Belgium’s Wallonia region, a French speaking region in southern Belgium that’s home to approximately 3.5 million people, has ruled that the use of a COVID vaccine certificate is illegal. As a result, the court has ordered the local government to pay a daily fine of €5,000 ($5,658 USD) until they withdraw the measure.”
According to the court, rules requiring these certificates for people to enter gyms, restaurants, cafés and various other places go completely against the rights and freedoms of individuals. Not only that, the judgement expressed that measures like vaccine passes do not serve the goal that they pursue, which is to stop the spread of COVID.
Posted by: Julie | Friday, 03 December 2021 at 11:35 AM
Its certainly not to stop covid. 100% jabbed in Gibraltar and they have to cancel Christmas due to serious outbreaks of covid. Wake up.
(100% JABBED) GIBRALTAR ... (Crown Colony in a Petri Dish?) - CANCELS CHRISTMAS' !
Posted by: Julie | Friday, 03 December 2021 at 11:39 AM
The DEATH vaxx.
Posted by: ShortWellah | Friday, 03 December 2021 at 11:50 AM
686 reported deaths from vaccine have been investigated and only 9 found to have been as a result of the vaccine. That’s 9 deaths from 39.1M jabs.
Yet over 2000 deaths from COVID.
No, you don’t have to be a doctor to report side effects from a vaccine. In fact, the TGA encourages anyone with side effects to report. However the TGA is also investigating multiple reports with different names that have originated from the same URL.
Which seems more likely? That 99% of politicians, doctors, and health professionals are either dopes or are in on the vaccine scam making big dollars? Or that 1% of health professionals are mentally ill?
Posted by: Calculus | Friday, 03 December 2021 at 12:01 PM
VAERS only captures anywhere from 1% to 10% of actual deaths or symptoms. So do the math for the actual figures of deaths and adverse events. Also disturbing how ill informed people are. They are astounded to think the vaccine is experimental, only gained emergency approval, hasn't been tested like other vaccines. Informed consent is also questionable.
𝗜𝗳 𝘆𝗼𝘂 𝗮𝗿𝗲 𝗻𝗼𝘁 𝘁𝗼𝗹𝗱 𝗮𝗯𝗼𝘂𝘁 𝗮𝗹𝗹 𝗖𝗼𝘃𝗶𝗱 𝘃𝗮𝗰𝗰𝗶𝗻𝗲 𝗶𝘀𝘀𝘂𝗲𝘀 𝗹𝗶𝗸𝗲 𝗽𝗲𝗿𝗶𝗰𝗮𝗿𝗱𝗶𝘁𝗶𝘀, 𝗺𝘆𝗼𝗰𝗮𝗿𝗱𝗶𝘁𝗶𝘀, 𝗴𝘂𝗶𝗹𝗹𝗮𝗶𝗻 𝗯𝗮𝗿𝗿𝗲 𝘀𝘆𝗻𝗱𝗿𝗼𝗺𝗲, 𝗕𝗲𝗹𝗹’𝘀 𝗽𝗮𝗹𝘀𝘆 𝗯𝘆 𝘁𝗵𝗲 𝗽𝗲𝗼𝗽𝗹𝗲 𝗴𝗶𝘃𝗶𝗻𝗴 𝘆𝗼𝘂 𝘁𝗵𝗲 𝗷𝗮𝗯, 𝘁𝗵𝗲𝘆 𝗮𝗿𝗲 𝗯𝗿𝗲𝗮𝗸𝗶𝗻𝗴 𝘁𝗵𝗲 𝗹𝗮𝘄.
Posted by: Julie | Friday, 03 December 2021 at 12:03 PM
Australia: 9 deaths from vaccine in 39M shots = death rate of 0.00002%.
2,021 deaths from 213,339 positive cases = death rate of 0.9%.
Posted by: Calculus | Friday, 03 December 2021 at 12:09 PM
GOOD NEWS, just found out I am 40% less likely to catch the virus and am not even vaccinated.
People with allergic conditions including hay fever, asthmas eczema have an up to 25% lower risk of COVID-19 infection, study finds
People with allergic conditions such as hay fever have a lower risk of being infected with COVID-19, a new study suggests.
Researchers from Queen Mary University of London looked at more than 16,000 adults in the UK between May 2020 and February 2021
They found that hay fever and eczema sufferers are nearly 25 percent less likely to contract the virus.
What's more, people with asthma were almost 40 percent less likely to be infected, even if they used steroid inhalers.
Posted by: Philip | Friday, 03 December 2021 at 12:16 PM
Quote "her husband was an Advisor to Pfizer"
Where is your evidence of this?
It helps your comment if you provide it.
Posted by: Philip | Friday, 03 December 2021 at 12:22 PM
Suparat, consider this.
Your 1.6% fatality rate is from tested cases. The actual infection number would be significantly higher because those without symptoms won't get tested and those with obvious close family ties won't either, eg. dad has it, he was tested, so why would the kids go and get tested if they have the same symptoms. The expected test rate is likely to be as low as 1:10.
Also, the jab does not work for everyone. At least 20% of the double vaccinated get near immediate break through infections. Data also suggests that the vaccine effectiveness fades for the entire population within 6 months.
So let's revisit your numbers.
IF the data released relates to a much higher sample size as you say, (let's say a million jabs). Then....
Vaccinate, (within weeks), kills 1223. Noted under reporting suggest it's more likely 2,500 fatalities, (per million).
For the unJabbed, assuming they all get infected. You should assume that as few as 0.16% would die WITH covid, equating to 1,600/million.
Let's ignore the bleeding obvious that dying WITH covid is not the same as dying OF covid. For example, crashing a car with covid should not be considered a death by covid. This alone will lower the reported percentage death rate.
Just on the data above, (per million people), if vaccinated, you would expect 2,500 IMMEDIATE deaths from the vaccine and for the unjabbed, 1600.
Being jabbed looks like a bad decision.
You should also consider.
- What long term injuries are accumulating but not yet reported?
- What about those vaccinated but it being ineffective, they will also die at the rates noted above. If 20% of the jabbed get no benefit, then 320 will be expected to die, (add that to the 2500 vaccinated deaths)
- And for the final insult, those being vaccinated will have to take boosters exposing to enhanced risks every six months. Whereas those who have been infected have a natural and proven benefit with long term benefit.
Summary, 1600 deaths WITH covid. 2820 deaths, (within 2 weeks), per million for the jabbed. And a continuing need to be exposed to the same risks every six months.
Blind Freddy has noted that the vaccine kills and is worse than the disease it was meant to protect against. Can you see this?
Posted by: Ian | Friday, 03 December 2021 at 12:36 PM
Forbes Admits mRNA Vaccines Alter DNA Then Changes the Headline
Heres the altered Forbes article:
Covid Vaccines Don’t Alter Your DNA – They Help Choose Cells To Strengthen Your Immune Response
Posted by: Charlotte | Friday, 03 December 2021 at 01:00 PM
Heres the archived article of which Forbes changed the headline
Yes, The Vaccine Changes Your DNA. A Tiny Bit. That’s A Good Thing.
Posted by: Charlotte | Friday, 03 December 2021 at 01:08 PM
What Are The REAL Numbers …..Facebook Has Removed Hundreds Of Adverse Vaccine 💉 Reaction FORUMS / Discussion Groups …..The Whole Thing Is CRIMINAL ‼️
Posted by: Wayne Shaft | Friday, 03 December 2021 at 01:18 PM
The cure is better than the disease....
Problem....It's not a cure.
People don't want to take something that might injure or kill them.
The efficacy reduces to to pretty much nil after 6 mths.
So, let's get this straight.
The vaccine won't stop you getting it, won't/can't stop you passing it on, doesn't provide protection for first two months, efficacy reduces to nearly zero after 6 mths,it's possible it could injure you, and it's possible it could even kill you.
What a fantastic thing these vaccines are.
Posted by: Ron O'Lakes | Friday, 03 December 2021 at 01:20 PM
Comment Of The Week …👍
Posted by: Wayne Shaft | Friday, 03 December 2021 at 01:20 PM
I could not agree more Barry J, but don’t hold your breath mate.
Posted by: Robbo | Friday, 03 December 2021 at 01:22 PM
My Ex-wife's sister in law is a GP in Melbourne.
She urged them to wait for Pfizer as she refused to offer Astra Zeneca and said it should be on the shelf anywhere.
Posted by: Ron O'Lakes | Friday, 03 December 2021 at 01:26 PM
I like that annology.
Posted by: Carolyn | Friday, 03 December 2021 at 01:27 PM
Not Just Players – Premier League Matches Disrupted By Fans Having 'Medical Emergencies' In The Stands
Posted by: Charlotte | Friday, 03 December 2021 at 01:41 PM
The question I ask everyone who pushes these jabs regardless of consent or medical appropriateness for any individual (let alone whether they're effective or not) is this:
Just how many deaths, miscarriages, heart attacks, other cardiac, pulmonary or circulatory injuries, how many brain injuries, neurological injuries and other lifelong injuries would you find acceptable from these forced jabs?
Come on, you put a figure on it, you tell me exactly how many you are prepared to accept!
I don't care how many million of the damned things get shoved into people's arms, you tell me how much harm would be acceptable to you personally.
Posted by: Beam Me Up | Friday, 03 December 2021 at 01:57 PM
I'd also ask, why are proven treatments with well-known and safe drugs that are already available and very inexpensive not being used to treat those who do have this virus?
The ivermectin protocol has been successfully used in many countries around the world, saving lives, yet its use is outlawed here in Australia, it's been criminalised here.
If this was about anyone's health, that ivermectin protocol would be used here as well.
Posted by: Beam Me Up | Friday, 03 December 2021 at 02:00 PM
50 vaxxed and boosted people at a private Christmas dinner party in Norway all caught the Omicron recently. It was vax-only attendance.
It may be becoming to some clear that it’s the vax that spreads the covid.
A few more pic.twitter.com/HhfIc00TQr
— SamData……… Please retweet to spread the news (@RealSamData) December 2, 2021
Posted by: Charlotte | Friday, 03 December 2021 at 02:34 PM
Let us go to the source report so we can quote with confidence.
(TGA report 18th Nov as our example as that is the latest I have open)
Large scale vaccination means that some people will experience a new illness or die within a few days or weeks of vaccination. These events are often coincidental, rather than being caused by the vaccine.
The TGA reviews all deaths reported in people who have been recently vaccinated. As the number of people being vaccinated has increased, so has reporting of fatal events with a coincidental association with vaccination. Our review of individual reports and patterns of reporting does not suggest that the vaccines played a role in the vast majority of these deaths.
Since the beginning of the vaccine rollout to 14 November 2021, about 37.7 million doses of COVID-19 vaccines have been administered. The TGA has found 9 reports of death that were linked to immunisation from 665 reports received and reviewed.
So, Cal has claimed 686 deaths, probably because Cal is quoting from a more recent report. This is also useful in context as it shows the numbers are steadily increasing from the 14th Nov report I have copy/pasted. Casual study of these TGA reports suggests deaths are occurring at about 15 per week and have shown little sign of slowing. I was expecting them to slow as we reach those magic numbers of 90% Jabbed but need to look deeper.
Either way - deaths are reported. I think we can all agree to this.
Now, reading what the TGA is actually saying:
First up, the first paragraph. Basically they are brushing off the deaths of multiple people each week as 'People die all the time, so don't blame the Jab'.
Also note the careful wording. "These events are OFTEN..."
Often. Implying most of the time but not always.
Read that in conjunction with "does not suggest that the vaccines played a role in the vast majority of these deaths."
This is actually a relatively new addition. For those of us with lives and who don't read through these TGA reports on a regular basis, this wording was added in October and added 'vast majority'. Previously the reports just said the Jab didn't play a role, now it didn't play a role in the 'Vast Majority'.
What this means is that the TGA admit (probably for legal reasons) that the Jab in the Small Minority did actually play a role in killing the person.
(also - if these deaths are coincidental, why are Australian medical professionals regularly giving them out to people who logically must already be clearly in the last weeks of their lives? Remember the TGA are not saying that coincientally healthy people are dropping dead after the Jab, but that either some new, or existing illness kicked them off. If existing, then why are terminally ill people being given the jab? If new, what is this 'non covid, non jab' illness that is killing about 15 people a week and why is the government NOT doing something about this?)
(also - Deaths with Jab? Coincident. Deaths with Covid? Absolutely totally Covid and nothing else. Just asking.)
Now, this is the thing. The question isn't really does the Jab reduce and/or block the chances of catching, suffering from and spreading Covid relative to the Pure Bloods.
(also note how the Narrative is now no longer that the Jab will protect you from catching, but now that it will mean you get it 'milder'. So you will go from having it but not knowing, to having it but not knowing with some sparkles and rainbows I guess...)
The big question is instead, Is the Jab SAFE?
Short answer - NO. It kills people.
Better more useful answer is that it seems to regularly kill people, and seems to have very nasty side effects, and hence MAY be of greater risk of injury or death than simply maybe getting Covid.
This is IMPORTANT. This is the corner stone of risk reduction. You do not reduce risk A by adding risk B.
(ie - if you are trying to prevent heat stroke, telling them to swim in the crocodile pond is not a good risk reduction process as now you have added in the previously non existing crocodile question.)
I can reduce the risk of Jab death or permanent heart damage by not taking the Jab. Very simple. No Jab = No Jab Risk.
The question then relates to the risk of death/permanent damage from the actual Fauci Flu.
Remember it is largely admitted that:
- breakthrough cases are real
- breakthrough deaths are real
- being fully 'vaxed' does not stop you catching or transmitting
- You will need boosters
- You MAY need boosters forever.
So, to recap
Jab Risk + Breakthrough Risk needs to be combined and compared to 'UnVax Risk' in a rational manner and the solution with the lowest OVERALL risk needs to be the direction taken.
Or you could just Trust the Science
Posted by: MudCrab | Friday, 03 December 2021 at 03:29 PM
1. You don't believe the TGA propaganda is accurate surely?
Look at the overseas official figures (still understated). Try the UK.
Why would we be seriously under those rates?
2. Lets talk again after say 3 years when we should start seeing what the long term effects are and we might have some honest figures.
3. The number for positive cases contains a high level of false positives.
Don't believe me; listen to what the person who developed the PCR test says.
4. I take it you agree about the appropriate comparison to make.No comment about differing risk profiles? Give us the age breakdown for the official TGA death figures.
Ya think that might be relevant to an appropriate weighing of the personal risks.
5. I have to call a foot fault on you. My serve. Do you need any help to remove it from your mouth.
6.It's really none of your f#$%^ng business who is vaccinated and who is not.
It's a private matter with no public health consequences.
The vaccinated and unvaccinated have an equal proclivity to acquire and spread the virus. Who is filling up hospitals in Gibraltar and Israel for example. Why, its the vaccinated because that's what most of the population is (100% in Gibraltar).
7. So we all know you favour (the so called) vaccines; good; you can have my quota. Enjoy! Makes both of us happy.
Posted by: Steve J | Friday, 03 December 2021 at 03:51 PM
Horowitz: Pfizer vaccine injury data ordered released by judge shows shocking risk level
In total, Pfizer discloses the existence of 42,086 adverse event case reports containing 158,893 total events, including 1,227 deaths. 25,957 of the events were classified as “Nervous system disorders.”
So for those who think that somehow VAERS is not accurate or is overreporting deaths, these are numbers straight from the horse’s mouth just through February.
Remember, it is extremely hard to trace many serious events back to the vaccine, including death, especially if there is a few weeks’ lag time, and most especially with people already in advanced age.
So these are just the ones that were “submitted voluntarily, and the magnitude of underreporting is unknown.”
And here the doctors will not even report side effects.
These doctors are criminal
The Govt is criminal
AHPRA is criminal
TGA is criminal
Or did the govt send a memo out to all doctors NOT TO REPORT SIDE EFFECTS???
Posted by: Charlotte | Friday, 03 December 2021 at 04:05 PM
Similar to playing russian roulette and adding another live round each time!
Posted by: Destroyer D69 | Friday, 03 December 2021 at 04:15 PM
India (the largest democracy in the world with population of 1.2 billion ppl) won't buy Pfizer/Moderna novel mRNA vaccines
‘Indian govt has declined to meet the US companies' requests for legal protection over any side-effects from use of their shots...”
Posted by: Charlotte | Friday, 03 December 2021 at 04:34 PM
No. Your base assumption is wrong.
You are assuming the Jab reduces the chance of Covid Death to zero.
This has been shown to be completely untrue.
So it is not the Jab death rate vs Covid death rate, it is the Unjabbed death rate vs the Jab Death rate vs the Breakthrough death rate.
The Jab does NOT PREVENT COVID. So you are risking jab death + Breakthrough Death.
The question you have to convince yourself (or allow Experts to tell you) is "Is Naked Covid a greater threat to me than the combined threat of Jab Adverse Events plus Breakthrough Covid?"
You cannot make proper risk reduction plans in isolation.
The other major point with this Pfizer admission is they KNEW about the 1223 deaths.
We now get into the 'One death is a tragedy, a million is a statistic' area. Pfizer knew there were deaths. Ration of deaths to Jabs in this context is not vital, it is the fact deaths occurred.
Yet they suppressed this and went forward anyway.
Tragedy vs statistics. Where do you draw the ethical line?
Remember the Ford Pinto story. The Pinto was actually no worse and arguably better in safety then it's peers. It was never a fireball waiting to happen. Where Ford got into trouble is they knew they could put in a better and safer design more or less straight away, but calculated that even - based on current crash rates - if they had to pay compensation to dead drivers they were better off financially doing the updates later in future production batches.
People were not (at least relative to other cars on the market) dying in great numbers and so Ford decided they could wait.
This is the principle of So Far As Is Reasonably Practical. Yes, you have to draw a line somewhere in life and just take the risk. Crossing a road is more dangerous than staying on the footpath, so in theory you should never cross a road. In practice you need those chickens and need to get to the other side every so often and so cross you must. If you are smart you put in risk reduction measures. You look both ways. You wait for gaps. You walk not run.
The question is when do you stop putting in risk reduction and just cross? And not only for you, but also the people who build roads. Crossing lights are lower risk than just crossing. Is it reasonably practical to build them on a main road? Probably. Is it reasonably practical to build them on your quiet little street in the suburbs? Probably not.
You have to make an assessment and decide.
So, in context did Pfizer make an assessment and act So Far As Is Reasonably Practical to reduce risk, or just say 'Pf..k It' and release their produce to the public?
Open question, but the fact they clearly knew people died isn't promising.
Posted by: MudCrab | Friday, 03 December 2021 at 04:43 PM
When the Jabs first came out we were told that our Experts and Leaders had agreed to a non blame clause.
So in normal terms I believe this works like this:
- I want your new shiny thing!
- It is still doing testing. We haven't found anything wrong at the moment, but we are still doing tests.
- Can't wait. I am willing to accept the risk. Here is a legal document.
- Fine. Here is your shiny thing.
So the buyer accepted the risk and said so. The Seller was, via the agreement, not to blame if anything unexpected popped up.
If a problem WAS to come up then it would no longer be unexpected. You didn't know that before, but you know that now.
Can you still sell the product and be blameless?
NO. You now know about the problem.
This is why they do safety recalls of products. Once you know about the problem you are responsible for it.
If the Jabs are believed to be associated to deaths or serious injuries you cannot just say 'Oh, but the deal was no blame, so can keep doing it'. Doesn't work that way. The moment you find a problem you need to act on it, even if it was not your fault or if you had no idea it could even happen.
It is now a problem.
You must act on it.
Any other industry would act that way.
Posted by: MudCrab | Friday, 03 December 2021 at 05:05 PM
Let us not forget something rarely mentioned in all the Chicken Little "sky is falling" nonsense - the actual percentage of Australian who have had Covid is well under one per cent of the total population - about 0.83% based on the following figures - and likely lower.
After over 20 months, as at 3 December 2021 there have been allegedly 214,885 confirmed cases in Australia. (https://covidlive.com.au/australia). The projected population at 3 December 2021 is 25,802,002 according to the ABS population clock.
I say allegedly as the Australian misuse of PCR tests with an excessive cycle threshold of 40-45 significantly inflates the number of Covid cases including "false positives" and those who certainly did not have a viral load capable of transmission.
Posted by: Gary | Friday, 03 December 2021 at 05:11 PM
And Governments will always give the correct figures never manipulate them for any reason.
Good luck if you believe that.
Posted by: Philip | Friday, 03 December 2021 at 05:31 PM
Gibraltar's Chief Minister has denied "sensationalist" media reports and reckons Christmas is still happening there.
Posted by: Adellad | Friday, 03 December 2021 at 05:41 PM
Nicely thought out MudCrab.
Posted by: wal1957 | Friday, 03 December 2021 at 06:07 PM
The low positive cases in Australia couldn’t have anything to do with closing international borders, lockdowns, high vaccinations rates, social distancing, working from home, etc could it?
Posted by: Calculus | Friday, 03 December 2021 at 07:52 PM
Sure. Let’s mark info from the TGA as “fake news” and instead believe a blog published by a 26 year old anti-Baxter with zero medical qualifications who lives in his mum’s basement. Good call.
Gibraltar? Sure there are some positive cases. But Gibraltar has only had 5 deaths since June. Israel is the same. Clearly the vaccine is reducing the severity of those who catch the virus.
Personally I don’t care if you are vaxxed or not. But I do care when you spread lies and false information. Isn’t it funny that the anti-vaxxers are always the ones to abuse others. Says more about you than me.
Posted by: Calculus | Friday, 03 December 2021 at 07:58 PM
Go to Google, type in Janette Young. Professor Nimmo is her husband. So get off your arse and do the research.
You shouldn't be commenting if you are so lazy you can't check the facts before you open your gob
Posted by: Jack J | Friday, 03 December 2021 at 08:00 PM
The vaccine is far safer than catching COVID. Just look at the stats in Australia. Even Blind Freddy can understand that a vaccine death rate of 0.00002% (and no vaccine deaths for 6 months now) is much better than a COVID death rate of 1%. Even if 10 times as many people have COVID as test positive (as you claim), then that is a death rate of 0.1%. Still three orders of magnitude worse.
As you said, crashing a car after being vaccinated should not be considered a death by vaccine. This alone will lower the reported percentage death rate.
Posted by: Calculus | Friday, 03 December 2021 at 08:02 PM
And how many people dying from COVID do you accept?
Posted by: Calculus | Friday, 03 December 2021 at 08:03 PM
I would like that to be true, however I am hoping to be allowed the chance to choose to face the world again wven if it is the last thing I ever do.
Posted by: Val | Friday, 03 December 2021 at 10:10 PM
Your claimed "explanations" may or may not have influenced the positive case numbers. I am sure there are many other possible variables. But since you offer no analysis or evidence they are still just your claims.
Your claims don't invalidate what I have posted one bit. We have had low numbers of positive cases, and even then positive cases were certainly greatly over-inflated by PCR threshold cycles of 40-45.
Posted by: Gary | Friday, 03 December 2021 at 10:44 PM
"Sure. Let’s mark info from the TGA as “fake news"
The first sensible suggestion I have seen you post.
Posted by: Gary | Friday, 03 December 2021 at 10:49 PM
Although the car crash could be jab-related if physical or cognitive impairment from a reaction to the jab manifests in a stroke, heart-condition, vision blurriness or any other adverse medical event that in some way contributed to the crash.
Only a few posts ago you were all to keen to claim, without any evidence, all kinds of variables that could account for low Covid case rates in Australia.
Posted by: Gary | Friday, 03 December 2021 at 11:01 PM
You tell us.
The numbers are such that nobody actually has any idea how many have differs Covid.
Heck...our very own Comrade Dan has said numerous times over the last two days that the numbers of cases are irrelevant.
Posted by: Ron O'Lakes | Saturday, 04 December 2021 at 12:36 AM
Should read..."shouldn't be on the shelf anywhere"
Posted by: Ron O'Lakes | Saturday, 04 December 2021 at 12:43 AM
I am no lawyer, so maybe a real lawyer can offer a more learned view on this.
So based on this really good point brought up by MC, does this mean that since Pfizer knew of the ability of their "vaccine" to kill people before supplying this lethal drug to Australia, that any attempt to absolve themselves from all liability for any harm caused by their drug is actually null and void and they can actually be sued by anyone that has been harmed by their "vaccine"? Would the TGA also be liable if they had the same information in hand which one would presume they would have had when they gave the provisional approval?
Just asking for a friend, as I am already part of the "control group".
Posted by: BS Buster | Saturday, 04 December 2021 at 02:27 AM
Six of one, half a dozen of another - if it is not the Jab killing people the Medical Industry will do it anyway, given a chance.
This nurse spoke out, but prior to her speaking out nurses in NY Hospitals spoke out last year, about the same thing.
The reason that they were being put on Vents - is because Medical Facilities were being paid $39000 for every patient who was on a Vent.
Covid has been & still is, a huge money spinner for Big Pharma & Medical Facilities.
This is the result of that Nurse going on record -
Posted by: Kureelpa | Saturday, 04 December 2021 at 02:31 AM
I seem to recall a fair bit of invective from you.
Country Bumpkin, to name only one, might as well.
In your case any negative comments you receive are well deserved.
Always happy to have discussions with reasonable people which is why I cannot stomach you.
Posted by: Steve J | Saturday, 04 December 2021 at 06:45 AM
There seems to be a correlation between the areas with the dreaded Omicron and the areas where the medication that shall not be mentioned, Iver#####n(COVID KRYPTONITE) is widely in use.
Posted by: Destroyer D69 | Saturday, 04 December 2021 at 07:16 AM
The reason for low case numbers is very clearly multi-factorial. Huge case numbers in Europe and the US. Are humans different in Europe or the US compared to Australia? Clearly not. So the factors that are likely to affect case numbers include all the administrative policies as I have outlined above, plus a few geographical factors and some of the social determinants of health.
Geographical factors include isolation of an island nation, and our relatively low population density. Is it any surprise that most cases pop up in high density cities? In comparison to Europe and the US, our cities are far apart. Australia also has a relatively warm and sunny climate. If you look at a map of the US with cases by state, the southern states - sunnier, warmer, more humid - tend to have lower case numbers. In Australia, there’s barely been a locally transmitted case further north than Brisbane.
Australia has a relatively healthy population. We have an abundance of healthy and cheap food. Yes, there are many overweight and obese people, and many with comorbidities keep alive through treatments and drugs, but few people are dying of starvation or tropical diseases and parasites. Which is also very interesting as the COVID cases are relatively low in Africa - perhaps a combination of many Africans already taking anti-virals which have a protective effect, and also that there are very few (relatively) old and sick people being kept alive in Africa through medicines and treatments. The old and infirm who were at great risk of dying from COVID just don’t exist in great numbers in Africa - they are already dead.
Posted by: Calculus | Saturday, 04 December 2021 at 07:34 AM
Facebook is a private company. They can publish or remove from publication whatever they like. To try and control what a private company can or cannot publish would be the real crime - that would be called communism.
Posted by: Calculus | Saturday, 04 December 2021 at 07:41 AM
You know you can go to the TGA website and report a vaccine side effect yourself, don’t you? Stop trying to invent conspiracies when they clearly do not exist.
Posted by: Calculus | Saturday, 04 December 2021 at 07:43 AM
Same link “ India's government will not buy COVID-19 shots from Pfizer (PFE.N)/BioNTech (22UAy.DE) and Moderna (MRNA.O), three government sources told Reuters, mainly because domestic output of more affordable and easier-to-store vaccines has jumped.”
Did you miss that bit in the story?
Posted by: Calculus | Saturday, 04 December 2021 at 07:47 AM
It's 2021 and people are still using Fakebook.
Now that is criminal and just stupid.
Posted by: Gary | Saturday, 04 December 2021 at 10:56 AM
Not a correlation, which implies an alignment in their relationship,
Rather it is an inverse correlation as Omicron (which appears to be as mild as Clark Kent) has appeared in the southernmost part of Africa, largely below the Tropic of Capricorn.
Ivermectin is used widely as an anti-parasitic with anti-viral properties but particularly in tropical Africa from the Tropic of Capricorn northwards to halfway between the Equator and Tropic of Cancer.
There information for both is readily available online.
Posted by: Gary | Saturday, 04 December 2021 at 11:10 AM
Hey jerkoff, if everyone on here had to spend time googling ALL the claims made by people it would take hours, also you would have to determine what is fact and what is fake therefore you would have to peruse a lot of links.
Posted by: Philip | Saturday, 04 December 2021 at 12:14 PM
The first one
Posted by: Grogery | Saturday, 04 December 2021 at 11:32 PM